Introduce yourselves… Bronze Candidate: No doubt, the crew is Shining Soul. I go by the Bronze Candidate. Liaizon: I go by Liaizon, and one member missing, DJay Clene, we’re a three man crew. BC: We’re from Phoenix, P-Town.
How is being in California? L: Its very dope. It’s good to be around other like-minded people who are doing things in the community, music-wise, movement-wise, all that.
What’s the underground scene like in Phoenix and in Arizona?
BC: Underground, above-ground, it’s omnipresent, in the valley, as far as venue-wise, we got clubs going on… L: There’s a lot of talent out there. Phoenix may not be blowing up yet, it’s not mainstream yet, but there’s a lot of talent, so don’t sleep on Phoenix.
You got demo out right now with two tracks, what’s the plan with the album? L: Right now we are trying to get a ten song album out, right now we got two for the promo, that’s the plan, we got production, trying to do the lyrics right now, trying just to get everything on point. We record our music, we write our music, we do everything.
Do you do your own beats?
BC: Yeah, like he said, it’s by us for us. The sample based sounds we been coming up with as of late, he usually digs through records, finds stuff that sounds good, decent, then I in turn take it, put sum percussion over it, do my interpretation of what the original music was, and then I bring it to them, see how they like it, if we’re all vibin’ on it, then pretty much take it from there.
You dug for some records while you were in Cali right? BC: Yeah, we went to Pasadena City College, they had a little rummage [sale] thing, record pool, in a parking garage. Lots to chose from, lots of discount bins, lots of high end stuff as well. We catered more to the low end (laughing). L: (laughing) The budget is low right now so…
Besides yourselves, what Arizona Hip-Hop artists do you recommend? BC: We know a lot of DJs, which is good, they’re the foundation, the backbone of Hip-Hop, musically. L: DJentrification (de-gentrification) is the most slept-on DJ in Phoenix, if you go into to town and look around, he’s been there and done all of that, he’s been paying dues for years, for decades pretty much, and graffiti, all the different elements, all that shit. Look out for DJentrification.
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We put on the cover of our magazine “It’s Bigger than Hip-Hop” and we try to use Hip-Hop for the greater good. How does Shining Soul’s music add to the movement? L: As for myself, I’m Native, I’m an Indigenous person from the Phoenix area of the world, of Arizona, or Northern Mexico, so I use my expression, which is rapping, you know, finding shit to sample, to further get the information out by networking. I don’t always incorporate politics into the music, but at the same time we’re at events and trying to help out. We’re very aware. I do a lot of stuff in the community, as far as reaching out to the youth, we do beat-making workshops, we show ‘em how to dig for records and samples so they can do shit instead of bullshittin’ on the rez, drinking and smoking, you know, it gives them an alternative. BC: The long term goal would be to build a curriculum around beat-making and introduce all the elements of Hip-Hop and eventually have them make the music and write their own lyrics and become an overall musician and teach music as well.
What local issues are going on in your area that we should know about? L: Well, in Phoenix we got issues, like everybody else does, with the “anti-Brown” vibe goin’ on in this country with the migrants. We got Sheriff Joe [Arpaio] in Phoenix right now pretty much trying to deport innocent people, everyday workers out here who don’t have the right paperwork. They’re “illegal” in this country, but they’re just like me and you, we’re all human. That’s a current issue in Phoenix that I do a lot of solidarity work with the homies, Phoenix Class-War Council. That’s in the city and on the rez, just trying to help organize around the border, cuz there’s a lot of Border Patrol out there bullshitin’ with the exact same mentality as Sheriff Joe has in the city, it’s just on the rez, on those terms out there. They’re trying to “secure our border” and they’re trying to raid our fuckin’ houses in our communities and mess up our ceremonies. It’s all related.
I’ve seen a lot of divisions between “Native Americans” and “Latinos” that has been created by this made-up colonial border. How have you dealt with that? L: The past few years or so we’ve done some benefit shows for my tribe in particular and one thing I like to do when we do these events is have it for everybody, or be part of events that are promoting to everybody. Over Columbus Day we did some events that were more Mexican style events but I was trying to incorporate native elements there. So just incorporating, engaging people, getting them together.
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